In this candid conversation with Tim Olmsted, Pema Chödrön brings Shantideva’s The Way of the Bodhisattva to life as practical guidance for modern practitioners. She reflects on bodhicitta as a natural expression of awareness, tonglen in daily life, working with anger and self-denigration, and what the bodhisattva vow actually plants in us: a seed of courage and compassion that grows over time.